
Questions: Cylinders & RVs
Propane cylinder and RV questions
Bring grill and RV or trailer cylinders to our yard at 10290 Ophir Road in Newcastle during office hours, and each one is checked before it is filled. Carry cylinders upright and secured, drive straight home, and keep them outdoors, never in a garage, shed or basement.
How can I tell how much propane is left in my grill cylinder?
Weigh it. The collar is stamped TW, the tare or empty weight; subtract that from what the cylinder weighs on a bathroom or luggage scale, and the difference is the pounds of propane inside. A PERC training guide uses the example of a cylinder with an 18-pound tare that holds 20 pounds of propane, so it weighs about 38 pounds when full.
What do WC and TW stamped on my cylinder mean?
WC is water capacity, the weight of water the cylinder can hold, which the filler converts to the pounds of propane it may take; PERC's example is 47.8 pounds of water capacity for 20 pounds of propane. TW is the empty weight of the cylinder with its valve. The collar also carries a manufacture or requalification date, which decides whether it can be filled.
What is the difference between 20, 30 and 40 pound cylinders?
The number is roughly how many pounds of propane the cylinder holds when properly filled. Grills usually take the 20-pound size, while travel trailers often carry 30 or 40 pound cylinders, many with two on the tongue. The WC and TW stamps give the exact figures for yours.
Can I refill the small 1-pound green camping cylinders?
No. Those are DOT specification 39 cylinders, which federal rules (49 CFR 178.65) define as non-reusable, and they carry a printed warning with penalties for refilling. If you camp often, ask a camping retailer about equipment built to run from a refillable cylinder, and use it only as the maker directs.
Do you charge by the gallon or a flat price per cylinder?
Dealers do it both ways; a PERC training guide notes that some companies charge by the gallon and others by the cylinder. Call the office at (530) 888-7438 for the current refill price before you drive over.
My old cylinder has a round valve handle. Will you fill it?
Probably not as it is. Portable cylinders from 4 to 40 pounds need an overfill prevention device, and PERC's cylinder guide says most OPD valves have a triangular handwheel marked OPD. Bring the cylinder in and we will check it and tell you whether it can be filled or needs a new valve or replacement.
How many propane cylinders can I carry in my car?
In a closed car, SUV or van, the U.S. limits that PERC summarizes are four 20-pound cylinders at most, nothing bigger than 45 pounds, and 90 pounds of propane in total. Stand them upright, wedge or strap them so they cannot roll, keep them out of the passenger area when you can, and unload them as soon as you arrive.
Where should I keep the spare cylinder for my grill?
Outside, standing upright, and not underneath or next to the grill. PERC's guide says a spare that is not hooked up should be kept away from propane appliances and other heat, because heat builds pressure until the relief valve lets propane out.
Why does my cylinder turn cold and frosty while the grill is on?
That is normal. The liquid inside boils into gas as it feeds the burner, and that cools the cylinder even while the grill heats up, so on a long cook moisture can frost on the outside. The same cooling is why liquid propane on bare skin can cause frostbite.
How often should I leak-test my grill or RV cylinder connection?
Each time you connect a cylinder, and before the first use every season. Brush leak-detector solution or thick soapy water over the valve and fitting, open the valve slowly and watch for bubbles; if tightening the fitting does not stop them, close the valve and call your propane retailer.
What do I do if my cylinder is hissing or I smell gas at the grill?
Put out any flames and do not smoke or vape nearby. If there is no fire or visible cloud at the cylinder, close its valve by turning it clockwise, then move away and call 911 or the fire department, as PERC's cylinder guide directs. Have the cylinder and grill inspected by a qualified professional before you use them again.
How do I get rid of an old or damaged propane cylinder?
Never put it in the trash. PERC's cylinder guide says to look for a local cylinder disposal program or ask your propane retailer for guidance, and never to use a cylinder that is damaged or has been through a fire. Call the office and we will point you in the right direction.
Sources: Propane Education & Research Council: Safety Guide for Portable Propane Cylinders (PRC-101044, PDF) (opens in a new tab) · Propane Education & Research Council: Measurements and Calculations with Propane, lesson 5 (WC, TW, filling by weight, PDF) (opens in a new tab) · 49 CFR 178.65: Specification 39 non-reusable (non-refillable) cylinders (Cornell LII) (opens in a new tab) · NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code (OPD requirement for 4 to 40 lb cylinders) (opens in a new tab)
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